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Sunday, April 15, 2012

The FBI, the NYPD and the 9-11-2001 King Street Exploding Mural Truck - All Roads Lead to Nowhere

One unsolved mystery of the events of 9-11 is the story of the exploding truck found on King Street in Manhattan on 9-11-2001.

The best evidence for the existence of the truck (sometimes referred to as a "van") is an audio of the New York Police Department radio transmissions on that day, which were recorded by a ham radio operator.  The operator is identified in the video below as WB6NYC, aka Robert Sanford, who was at the time working as an emergency coordinator for the Amateur Radio Emergency Service (ARES) in New York City.

Some information about Robert Sanford from the above link:

"Robert Sanford went about his life as he usually does. 11th September started off early for Robert - about 6.00 am, but who cares...... Robert is an Amateur radio enthusiast (as I am) and when he learned about the events unfolding in New York Robert was on the case immediately.

During the next few hours Robert recorded some of the most amazing audio that he had ever had to listen to - and probably some of the saddest content. Events on 11th September are known to most people on Earth, but when you actually listen to the audio recordings that Robert captured it WILL change your view of the whole thing known as Incident 0727.

Here's some info about Robert in his own words:

After some 20 years in New York City I have decided to get the hell out of Dodge and make the nice quiet town of Sausalito my new home town. I was the Emergency Coordinator for ARES, the Radio Officer for RACES and the SKYWARN Coordinator for New York City. 

I recently have taken on the position as Southern Marin Communications Leader for Marin RACES which falls under the jurisdiction of the Marin Sheriffs Department Office of Emergency Services. So far it has been a very pleasant experience and have found all of the Fire and Police departments out here very helpful and interested in Amateur Radio's role in disaster preparedness."

In the audio at 1:42, 1:54, and 2:32 mention is made of a "remote controlled plane filled with explosives" - the location is given as "King and 6th Avenue".

Several requests are then made to the officer reporting on the plane to "10-5 (repeat) the message about the plane". At 3:51 an officer states "Central, I got a message on that, uh, plane. It's a big truck with a mural painted of an airplane diving into New York City and exploding".

At 4:05 an officer makes a request for the Bomb Squad and the ESU (Emergency Service Unit) of the NYPD to go to King Street.  ESU also functions as a SWAT unit.  From above link:  "The personnel selected for ESU become highly trained, elite members of the NYPD who perform rescue, SWAT and other high risk tactical, counter-narcotic and counter-terror operations."

At 4:20 in the audio one of the officers on the scene states that two men got out of the truck and ran away from it, and that they are holding the two men. At 4:34 "F***ing beat the s*** outta them!" plus sounds of a commotion are heard.  At 4:45 the statement is made "We have the suspects who drove in the van, the van exploded". At 5:00 "Put 'em up, put 'em up." ("Put your hands up".) Mention is made of an explosion at 5:03 and then again at 5:36.  At 6:10 a request is made to contact the chief of OCCB, the Organized Crime Control Bureau.

The truck was also mentioned in the Mineta Transportation Institute Report (September 2003) and the mural in that report (page 28 in the .pdf file) is described as "a plane crashing into the World Trade Center".

"Mineta" refers to Norman Mineta, Secretary of Transportation under George W. Bush, appointed to the position in 2001.  Norman Mineta is also mentioned several times in the official 9-11 Commission Report.

There are no photos of the truck.  Mock-ups, apparently done with Photoshop style software, have been surfacing.

Below is the scanner recording (apparently an edited version - the original is at this link.)

Critics have stated that there is no 6th or 7th Avenue next to King Street in Manhattan as heard on the audio.  The King Street location was between Avenue of the Americas, which New Yorkers habitually refer to as 6th Avenue, and Varick Street, which feeds into 7th Avenue.

In a 9-16-2001 New York Times article titled After Shining Decade, City Dwellers Reassess Face of Their Reality by Adam Nagourney, mention is made in the 8th paragraph of the truck found on King Street in Soho:  

Contrast that with the audio above and then this excerpt from page 28 of the pdf file of the Mineta Transportation Institute Report, which gives a different story:

Mineta Transportation Institute Report, p. 28

A panel truck with a painting of a plane flying into the World Trade Center was stopped near the temporary command post.  It proved to be rented to a group of ethnic Middle Eastern people who did not speak English.  Fearing that it might be a truck bomb, the NYPD immediately evacuated the area, called out the bomb squad, and detained the occupants until a thorough search was made.  The vehicle was found to be an innocent delivery truck.

In 2011, I made a Freedom of Information Act request to the FBI on the King Street truck referencing the above information, copies of it attached to the request.  The FBI responded.  They were unable to locate any records.

I also contacted the NYPD and was referred to the Freedom of Information Law unit (FOIL).  I made a request referencing the same information and patterned it based on a sample letter used by attorneys.

About a month later, I got two responses from the NYPD.  The first was a letter stating "this unit is unable to locate records responsive to your request..."

The second letter, oddly, came a few days later.  

It stated that "Your request has been assigned to Police Officer [           ] of this office, and it is estimated that processing of your request will be completed by 3/11/12."

The reasons given for the delay were:

1.  "Numerous records must be reviewed in order to determine whether disclosure is required."  and

2.  "Records have not yet been received by other NYPD unit(s)."

A couple of weeks after the "completed by" date, I contacted Officer [        ] at the FOIL Unit.  He stated that the first letter was correct and that the second "must have been a clerical error".  He also stated that he acted on the second letter, "went above and beyond" normal efforts to find the information, and still came up with nothing.  When I asked about the New York Times article, he said "We're not the New York Times."

The FOIL unit of the NYPD is known for being notoriously slow, "habitually withholding information and flouting government transparency laws", according to a recent article in the Village Voice:  FOIL'd Again: Why Doesn't the NYPD Want You to Know Anything?

I am not questioning the veracity of the officer in charge of this detail. However, it is difficult to tell, given the past history of the FOIL Unit, whether there is no information on the King Street incident or whether the officer was not allowed to disclose any.   

In November of 2011, a revision to the FOIA rules was defeated.  This revision would have authorized the government to inform the public that requested records do not exist even if they do.

An article on the defeated revision states that "Under normal practice, which seems Orwellian enough, the government may assert that it can neither confirm nor deny that relevant records exist if the matter involves national security."  Could this be why no records on the King Street van have been forthcoming?

Adam Nagourney became the New York Times' Los Angeles bureau chief in 2010.  As a last ditch effort, I emailed Nagourney about his New York Times piece from 2001. A response came in less than 1 hour (click to enlarge).  It read "Hey sorry.  Way too long ago don't remember any more."

Was the mural on the truck a depiction of a remote controlled plane?  Was the truck used to distribute goods to Israelis who would then sell them from mall kiosks?

From the Wall Street Journal 12-3-08 "Shalom Christmas Shoppers: Israelis Sell Toys, Cosmetics at the Mall"

Urban Moving Systems, the Israeli Mossad front famous for the "Dancing Israelis" who celebrated the collapse of the WTC, is connected to a warehouse in Bayonne, NJ.  This warehouse is a distribution point for Zoomcopters, a simple toy famous for being sold by Israelis from mall kiosks just prior to 9-11.

Other goods sold by Israelis include but are not limited to: Dead Sea cosmetics, remote controlled planes and helicopters, and hair extensions.  Did the King Street truck belong to Urban Moving?

Would ethnic Middle Eastern people, as stated in the Mineta report, simply be code for "Israelis"?  If in fact "the vehicle was found to be an innocent delivery truck", then why did it explode, and why did the occupants run away just before the explosion?

I am no longer interested in pursuing this wild goose chase to find information. I am leaving this up to an organization or concerned individual(s).  They need to go through the process of asking for the information, and when they don't get it, filing a class action suit.

File it against the City of New York, the NYPD, Rudolph Guiliani and Bernard Kerik as defendants.  The crime of aiding and abetting the cover-up of a terrorist act should be one of the charges.  Take a cue from the New York Times suit against the NYPD FOIL Unit.

We Are Change New York City, are you listening?


List of 9-11 Police and Fire Radio Transmissions 

Archive of 9-11 Emergency Radio Transmissions

Confirming the Exploding-Mural-Van Coverup

Feds Drop Plan to Lie in Public-Record Act Requests

New York Times Sues City Police, Saying Information Has Been Illegally Withheld

 9-11, Mossad Mall Spies, Zoomcopters, and Dominik Suter

The official 2001 FBI docs on Urban Moving Systems and the 9-11-2001 Dancing Israelis incident



John Friend said...

Good work staying on top of all this, I can't thank you enough for your efforts. Clearly, Israeli intelligence was involved in 9/11. In my view, the Mossad was the primary agency responsible for organizing and carrying out the attacks.

Just to summarize, we have confirmation that:

1. There were five shady and extremely suspicious Israelis arrested by the East Rutherford Police Department on 9/11 with connections to Mossad

2. There was a massive Israeli espionage operation taking place across the United States, which targeted federal institutions, federal officials, military facilities, ect. and which was also spying (or running) the Muslim hijacker patsies in Florida and New Jersey prior to 9/11

See also Carl Cameron's reports which have been deleted by Fox News but are still on YouTube

3. Presumed Israelis arrested on the George Washington Bridge with explosives in their vehicle on 9/11 (Dan Rather and other mainstream sources reported this, whatever happened to this story?!)

4. The King Street exploding mural truck...

Am I missing anything?

We also know that of the 100+ Israelis arrested prior to, on and after 9/11 ALL OF THEM WERE DEPORTED TO ISRAEL after failing polygraphs and refusing to answer questions at the behest of Zionist Jew Michael Chertoff and other criminal Zionist elements of the US federal government.

Finally, we know of the long history of Israeli involvement in false flag terrorism, framing Arabs to further the global Zionist agenda.

I doubt We Are Change will touch this. No 9/11 Truth groups I know of are willing to delve into the obvious culprits and prime benefactors of 9/11. I've had all sorts of problems bringing this info to the attention of the 9/11 Truth group here in San Diego. I did manage to organize a presentation at a coffee shop, but the main 9/11 Truth group wouldn't let me give a presentation during their monthly event. Gatekeepers and cowards I think.

andie531 said...

Thank you for your support and your input.

Am I missing anything?

In the FBI report there were at least 4 vans on 9-11, all Israeli, all positively connected to Urban Moving. These would include the Dancing Israeli van; 2 vans heading to Boston before AA flight 11 departed from Logan International; and 1 "heading in the direction of the Shanksville crash site" words quoted from the FBI.

The GW Bridge van and the King Street van (reported on but not ID'd as Israeli) count for 2 more.

A different report of a van seen at Liberty State Park.

So there were at least 7 vans, probably all Israel connected.

We also know that of the 100+ Israelis arrested prior to, on and after 9/11 ALL OF THEM WERE DEPORTED TO ISRAEL after failing polygraphs and refusing to answer questions

I don't know if the "mall spies" were polygraphed or just rounded up and deported - is there a reference? The Dancing Israelis were the ones subjected to polygraphs (failed) and questioning at length.

I doubt We Are Change will touch this. No 9/11 Truth groups I know of are willing to delve into the obvious culprits and prime benefactors of 9/11....Gatekeepers and cowards I think.

Well, I kind of know that - what I did was ask a rhetorical question. This kind of thing is their "beat" or venue and they are doing nothing. Primary documentation is essential, otherwise "skeptics" (some of whom are rather boneheaded) can say nothing happened - where's the evidence. I think if you're smart, you don't leave this up to 9-11 "truthers".

My best hope is other concerned citizens (US and worldwide) will go after evidence (independently) and not get stuck with these groups, who seem to be hell bent on keeping information from getting out.

John Friend said...

Are you familiar with the Gerald Shea Memo? He was a corporate lawyer who investigated the Israeli spy rings operating prior to, on and after 9/11 that were investigated and arrested by federal officials (FBI, Customs, DEA, ect.)? Here is his memo he submitted to the 9/11 Commission AFTER they released their report:

He confirms much of what I said in the first comment.

The funny thing about 9/11 is that the best primary source documentation we have available all points to ISRAEL being involved in the operation, NOT MUSLIMS. We have FBI reports, DEA reports, the East Rutherford Police report, the Gerald Shea Memo, numerous mainstream sources... it's pretty overwhelming at this point who the prime suspects are. Why are all the "Truth Groups" afraid to go after the obvious culprits?

andie531 said...

are you familiar with the Gerald Shea Memo?

No - thanks for the link.

Why are all the "Truth Groups" afraid to go after the obvious culprits?

I don't know if it's fear - I assume gate keeping, which has been the norm with issues like this.

Then there is always the motivation to belong to a group, and the "groupies" don't want to be ostracized or excommunicated for the sin of having a brain.

I don't trust the mentality of people who bleat like sheep as in "repeat after me". That looks like a cult. No critical thinking allowed:

My mother joined the Birchers and then found that they wouldn't let anyone discuss the Fed.

She caught on that the JB's were financed by Rockefeller - so formed a splinter group of Birchers to discuss the Fed and other issues. They were under surveillance by the FBI (long story).

This was at a time when anti-Fed people were called "kooks" ("conspiracy nuts" as a term had not been invented).

Not unusual, as many people in the anti-war movement in the 60's were also under the microscope.

It hasn't changed. It's gotten worse - patriot act and all - however, the main difference now is the internet.

If some group won't listen, find people in it who will and form a splinter group.

Vance Green said...

People who will listen isn't the problem. People who are willing to put their money where their mouths are to fund FOIA Lawsuits is the problem. Of the how ever many hundreds, if not thousands discussing Israeli involvement how many have actually done any thing more than posted a comment? If you want this information, then put up the money for a FOIA Lawsuit against NYPD and FBI.

Vance Green said...

Nothing will change until the web lip service ceases and people fund a FOIA lawsuit against NYPD and FBI.

andie531 said...

"Nothing will change until the web lip service ceases and people fund a FOIA lawsuit against NYPD and FBI."

Find an attorney who will take it on and start funding via or some other means. If anyone wants to get this started, I will help it get wide exposure.

Anonymous said...

More evidence of the existence of the King St. mural truck. 3 blocks from King and 6th a man talks about a big truck with a mural of a plane flying into the towers, and that the police caught it.

andie531 said...

"3 blocks from King and 6th a man talks about a big truck"

The first 30 seconds of that video could have been made last week for all we know - it doesn't qualify as evidence IMO. Where is this clip from?

tb727 said...

one of the most extensive write-ups of something that unfortunately never gets mentioned any more. Any thoughts of a connection between the Gelatin B-Thing "students" living inside the World Trade Center and the Weehawken moving company?

Thanks again, great work.

andie531 said...

to tb727

I've looked into the Gelatin people who are from Austria and hit a brick wall.

I think the floor they were on has something to do with the whole thing, it looks like it was gutted and perhaps these Austrians and their "art" project were just a distraction. I haven't had a lot of time to look into it, though I cannot find a connection between Gelatin's artists and Israel. The whole Gelatin thing is pretty strange in any case. I just can't figure out what was going on there (yet). The gallery owner they were connected to (Leo Koenig) may be of some interest. I don't have a lot of time these days. Wish I did.

There is some disinfo penned by Jonathan Elinoff stating that Israeli art students were in the towers, but that does not wash.

That Elinoff stuff was repeated by the so called whistle blowing stewardess Rebekah Roth. When I asked her where she got her information from she told me I could find it on the internet. So much for her "expertise" - she would also not disclose what airline she worked for. So I have my doubts she ever worked as a stewardess. She seems to be some kind of psyop, or professional shit-stirrer.

The list of art students who were involved with the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council can be found online at the Internet archive. I put a link to it in the article I wrote on Uzi Bohadana. None of the names mesh with any of the Israeli art students questioned by the FBI, and as I recall, I think only one of them may have been from Israel. That is not evidence in itself.

Thank you for your comment.

Si Naylor of Halifax Nova Scotia said...

Who is the author of this? Who made the FOIL requests? Is this written both about and BY Robert Sanford?

andie531 said...

Robert Sanford did not write this. I did, and I made the FOIL requests. This is my blog, after all.