Wednesday, August 17, 2011

The official 2001 FBI docs on Urban Moving Systems and the 9-11-2001 Dancing Israelis incident

Comment #2 goes over how anyone can get their own copies of these documents on a CD from the FBI (for those skeptics who claim this is "disinfo" - as if I have any time to slug this stuff together).  Here is the boilerplate letter I received from the FBI after making the initial request and asking for a fee waiver (my personal info has been whited out).

I've saved many the trouble of getting their own documents by posting them on Scribd.com, links are in the notes area (in RED).  Article begins here:
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Section 5, page 42






 Above:  A snippet from the 2001 FBI files on Urban Moving Systems and the 9-11 Dancing Israelis incident.  An employee of UMS dishes on the boss (Dominik Suter?) who not only cheats customers but seems to harbor a huge grudge against the United States.  

Here are videos for those unfamiliar with the story:










The controversy around Urban Moving Systems (active as a business since approximately 1996) centers around the fact that it was a Mossad front company, and whether or not the "employees" (agents) knew what was about to go down on September 11th.  There were also, according to the FBI report, traces of explosive in the van used in the Dancing Israelis incident.  Were members of this group involved in rigging the towers for demolition?  Were they part of a Sayeret Yahalom demolition team? (Hat tip to Niqnaq on that one).

Section 1, page 35

In section 5, page 25 of the FBI report, a male eyewitness who was painting the interior of an apartment spots the Dancing Israelis on a nearby roof "less than 5 minutes" after the first plane hits the WTC.  The location of the roof, The Doric Apartments at 100 Manhattan Avenue in Union City, NJ, is a 5 minute drive from Urban Moving Systems at 3 W 18th Street in Weehauken.  This contradicts the statements of the Israelis in the 4th video (starting at 3:55), who claim they began driving to that point after the first plane hit the towers. 

Section 1, pages 36-37
There were a number of reasons I retrieved and posted the 4 page police report from the East Rutherford, NJ P.D. and these FBI documents on the 9-11-2001 Dancing Israelis incident (links are below).  If any 9-11 researchers had seen them, they failed to make them available for public scrutiny.  As a consequence, some individuals have concluded that the Dancing Israelis were an "urban legend", based only on researchers' opinions and a slew of seemingly disparate facts.

Section 5, page 41

Fill out an FOIA request, or write a letter, and these public records are yours for a few dollars, or free.  So why have we not seen (until now) official documentation on these suspicious events - events that apparently never got a mention in the 9-11 Commission Report?

Section 5, pages 62-63





The FBI's investigation of the Dancing Israelis is close to 550 pages long - redacted pages (not included in the above count), had they been made available, would bring the actual report closer to 1800 pages.  Of the released pages, many are partially blanked out.  The investigation won't be completely declassified until 2030 at the earliest; however it appears that date was changed to 2035 (see above stamps that appear on most pages).

Section 5, page 30
 The report is in 6 sections. The PDF "search" option does not seem to be working.  A brief synopsis of some findings are below, section by section.
Section 1, page 33

Because of time constraints, I have not vetted everything.  Please note in the comments area any section/page of interest found in these documents.  I have posted some snippets, however, I may have missed a few things, and would appreciate any insights, help etc.

Section 5, page 47





From the official East Rutherford, New Jersey police report, page 4 - suspect claims they were in Manhattan on the West Side Highway during the attack on the WTC (stated as "the incident")



Section 1, page 65
Above:  A female witness at 100 Manhattan Avenue spots the Israelis "high fiving" each other while watching the WTC burn.  Were they really happy to see the WTC burn, or were they just fans of Seattle's "High Five'n White Guys"?:


The first 9 links below this article under "Related posts" are my own independent research.  Some of these articles contain evidence that some actors in this group are still active in the US.

The Doric Apartments, 100 Manhattan Ave, Union City, NJ - "...the Doric stands on the cliffs of Union City offering non-obstructed breathtaking views of the New York City's skyline" - quote from Doric's website




One view of Manhattan from the Doric Apartments - from Panaramio.com and Google Maps



























The Doric Apartments' garage rooftop parking area where the Dancing Israelis were spotted on 9-11-01.  Below, a promo video for the Doric Apartments.



















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NOTES AREA

FBI documents on Urban Moving Systems and the Dancing Israelis (these notes will be updated as time permits)

Regarding the Dancing Israelis connection to the Mossad, here's an article from the Jewish Daily Forward.

For an interesting analysis of the information in these documents, please first see this brief intro, then the following article:

The "Dancing Israelis" FBI Report - Debunked.

A concise video of the same analysis is here on YouTube.

UPDATE:  On Scribd, the documents are available for reading, however Scribd is now charging for downloads.  Free downloads are available via this blog.

Section 1 (full text at this link)

Section 1, page 7








Section 1, page 12.  Flyer found for party at the Garage on 99 7th Avenue in Manhattan.  The date "7-11" (exactly 2 months before 9-11) is prominent.  Is the address (99 7th Avenue - 99 = 9x11) significant?  Keren is a common Israeli women's name. What is being covered up on the right side of the flyer?   Below a snippet from a Google search for DJ VanJee that refers to Jaffa, a city located in Israel.






Section 1, page 23.  An "unscheduled" UMS van is spotted in Plymouth, MA on 9-11-2001 at 6:45 a.m.





Section 1, page 30. AA flight 11 was scheduled to depart Boston's Logan Airport at 7:45 a.m.





 p. 36 and p. 52-53 - An "unscheduled" Urban Moving Systems van is stopped by Pennsylvania State Police as it is traveling toward the Shanksville, PA hijacked flight 93 crash site:
Section 1, page 36





Section 1, page 30

p. 36 - An "unscheduled" Urban Moving Systems van is found in Nashua, NH on 9-11:

Section 1, page 36







Section 1, page 34  Airline tickets with immediate travel dates found in NJ van.





Section 1, page 39





p. 61-77 - Tenants at 100 Manhattan Avenue apartments are questioned about sightings of Israelis prior to 9-11.

Section 1, page 61.  One of the 5 Dancing Israelis was spotted at 100 Manhattan Ave. on 9-10-01.  Was he helping the mysterious couple (below) move out of their apartment?







Section 1, page 71 - Manager at 100 Manhattan Ave.
regarding tenants moving out using a UMC truck on 9-10-01







Section 1, page 73 - Urban Moving sighted at 100 Manhattan Ave. 9-10-01


Section 1, page 73.  Did the mysterious tenant who moved on 9-10-01 "work" at the WTC?      
















Hoboken PATH Station
1 Hudson Place, Hoboken, NJ 07030.
Served by Newark-World Trade Center, Hoboken - 33rd Street, and Hoboken-World Trade Center lines. 

Section 1, page 96 - a few of the odd photos found










Section 1, page 100 - flight itinerary - 12 Sept departure












Section 1, page 112 - Letter posted from Charlotte, NC.  The Fox News video below at the 1:26 mark reports the presence of Israeli Mossad in North Carolina.

Are the numbers 6 and 8 significant (68 cents postage, sticker with 8 legged figure juggling 6 balls)?

Do some research on the zip + 4 number ("28210-5700") and you might find it links back to Union City, NJ.













pages 128-129 - addresses in Missouri and Texas

Section 2 (full text at this link)

Section 2 covers insurance papers for Urban Moving Systems.

p. 35 includes VIN numbers for all UMS vehicles, including the famous white van.


p. 77 is a report of said van at Liberty State Park, NJ.


Section 3 (full text at this link)

Section 3, page 28.  A 9-16-01 memo details a new UMS warehouse location at 73-75 Gould Street in Bayonne, NJ.  I exposed this warehouse and the UMS connection to Israeli mall sales of Zoomcopters in an article in 2009
9-11, Mossad Mall Spies, Zoomcopters and Dominik Suter


Section 4 (full text at this link)

Section 5 (full text at this link)

P 21:  female employee of UMS arrives at work at 8:58 am (shown on punched time card). A co-worker brings her some cookies - she estimates this happened about 5 minutes after she clocked in (9:03)  She talks with co-worker for "a few more minutes" and then hears someone in the building shout "Oh my God a plane just hit the World Trade Center."   She then heads into the dispatch room of Urban Moving Systems (where the shout came from) and sees "a still picture on a computer screen of a plane hitting one tower".

p. 25:  A painter at the Doric Towers, 100 Manhattan Ave, Union City, NJ is informed by a partner of the disaster "less than 5 minutes" after the first plane hits the north tower".  He "stands up from painting the baseboard, looks out of the window, and notices 3 young men taking video and still photographs from atop the roof of the parking garage adjoining Doric Towers. (ed. note:  Urban Moving Systems is a 5 minute drive from 100 Manhattan Ave.)

Section 5, page 27 - cigarette butts as evidence
 
Section 6 (full text at this link)

p 8:  foreign names and names of obscure towns in India and Nepal.

p 30:  report on Israeli art vendor arrested in Mercer county.  Found traveling in the vicinity of the FAA center in Pomona, NJ and also taking pictures of bridges and freeways:
 
Section 6, page 30



 






Below, video on Israeli "art sales": 





p 33: four Israeli nationals arrested by Mt. Holly Police dept on 8 14 2001

p 38:  FBI declares Israelis innocent

p 40:  phone number found in notes connected to individual in S. America with "ties to Islamic militants in the ME"

P 41:  another phone number is connected to a hash dealer in NY - this info is considered moot.

p 43:  FBI admits wide discrepancies in suspects stories


Section 6, page 45 - witness describes video camera




Section 6, page 47  Dancing Israelis, Classic International Movers and the 19 hijackers

Section 6, page 48 - Dancing Israelis heading to NJ at 7:48 a.m. on 9-11-01.  From Brooklyn-Battery Tunnel (A) to Urban Moving (B) - an 18 minute commute that passes by the WTC and also uses the Lincoln Tunnel (map below).
























Or did they go directly to the Doric apartments, a 16 minute drive, arrival time 8:04 a.m.?  The van was spotted at the Doric at about 8 a.m. by a witness interviewed by the FBI.


p 63: FBI references antiwar.com

p 89:  items not claimed by suspects destroyed


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And the aftermath continues:




Related posts:

A Dancing Israeli's Wishlist:  Further Proof of Foreknowledge of the 9-11 Attacks?

The FBI, the NYPD and the 9-11-2001 King Street Exploding Mural Truck - All Roads Lead to Nowhere

A 9-11 and Mossad-connected Israeli you've never heard of - Uzi Bohadana 

From Union to Scab Labor at the WTC - 9-11's Missing Link? 

9-11, Mossad Mall Spies, Zoomcopters and Dominik Suter

Suter's Back in Town - 9-11's Dominik Suter is Alive and Well and Living in New Jersey? 

Are the "Dancing Israelis" Plotting Revenge?  And Why is (at least) One of Them Still Residing in the US? 

9-11's Dancing Israelis bailed on 3+ Million $ Debt

One of Dancing Israeli Suter's Enterprises Still Going Strong? 

Snopes.com and the Odigo 9-11 Messages

The Billion Dollar Israeli Scammer Machine

9-11 and the October 19, 2001 Philly bus station bomb

9-11 - A date awaited by Rabbis for the past 400 years 

September 11th Timeline, Including Times of First TV and Radio Broadcasts

1010 WINS Radio (NYC) 9-11-2001 broadcasts, starting at 8:00 a.m.

Zim Shipping: New Evidence suggests Six Months Foreknowledge of the September 11th Attack Date

Cousin Of Alleged 9/11 Hijacker Exposed As Israeli Spy

Prior knowledge of 9/11 attacks overheard in Hebrew

US Consulate whistleblower: 9/11 hijackers passports were issued by the CIA

Israel's Haaretz: Netanyahu says 9/11 terror attacks good for Israel

Sept.2002 - Mossad (Shavit) and CIA Chiefs (Woolsey) elected to FDNY Terrorism Preparedness Taskforce  

12-14-2012 - 9-11's Rudi Dekkers in Jail for Drug Trafficking (Houston)

Antiwar.com article re: its inclusion in the above FBI documents 

9-11 Commission attorney tied to Jewish Mafia

'Cheering Movers and Art Student Spies: What Did Israel Know in Advance of the 9/11 Attacks?'
  
Dozens of Israeli Jews Are Being Kept in Federal Detention

Was September 11th a cover up of a financial fraud? 

Salon.com - The Israeli Art Student Mystery

Wayne Madsen - The Israeli Art Students and Movers Story 

FBI Turning Over Stones With Israelis Underneath

World Trade Center Occupancy obtained thru Freedom of Information Act from Port Authority of NY / NJ * 1972-2001

Fed gives grant to Urban Moving Systems
Controlled Demolition Inc. employee:  evidence of demolition, explosives at WTC 

Mossad Agents Back in the Malls - 9-11 Profiteer Lowy Owns Malls Israelis Work In (Deja Vu All Over Again?)

Working in Tokyo for the Israeli Mafia

Israeli Illegals Finding New Lives In South Florida

Israeli Mall Spy Disrupts Commercial Flight


Dancing Israelis: Further Evidence of Foreknowledge

Rubbing our noses in it - US to build "Site 911" bunkers in Israel
 
The Spy Who Loves Us - Pay no mind to the Mossad agent on the line.
By Philip Giraldi

The Experts Are Starting To Say The 9/11 Conspiracy Wackos May Be Right

100 Critical Points about 9-11

 

20 comments:

Philip Keaton said...

Did you post this on Scribd.com -- and, if so, how did you come into possession of them? FOIA?

Anonymous said...

1) Yes
2) Yes

The FBI has an online FOIA form. You can use the E. Rutherford NJ 9-11 police report (also on Scribd) as a reference when requesting these documents. It's not a mystery.

They will charge to print them (about $45) or will send them on a CD for free. Scribd will allow you to download your own copies.

Chris Siess said...

So happy to find your blog via Raw Story. Good work. Have you ever heard the the video between Emad Salem and FBI Special Agent John Anticev concerning the attacks on the WTC in 1993? If not you can find it here.
http://www.mefeedia.com/watch/30268189
The vid confirms that 1)The FBI knew an attack was imminent. 2)The FBI knew the target of the attack 3)The FBI knew the names and was well acquainted on the whereabouts of the individuals involved. 4)The FBI instructed on the construction of the bomb 5)The FBI paid hush money to Emad Salem.
In the recording Emad Salem is heard to be shaking down the FBI for more money and threatening to tell the media the truth. He even goes so far as to threaten to tell well known Pulitzer Prize winner, 'Conservative' Washington Post columnist, contributing editor to the Weekly Standard and The New Republic,and frequent Fox News contributor Charles Krauthammer.
Keep up the Great Work.
DEATH TO ZION!

Anonymous said...

9/11 and Israel, here:
http://www.iuniverse.com/Bookstore/BookDetail.aspx?BookId=SKU-000190526

Anonymous said...

Here is one news story that I heard right after 911 but not since. A Puerto Rican man said that he was working at UMC and on 911 he was crying but all of the Israelis there were cheering.

Anonymous said...

Where is UMC and how many Israelis were cheering?

Anonymous said...

Since people like Mukasey and Chertoff have played such important roles in what happened after 9-11, the possibility of their having a hand in 9-11 has to be considered. It is as if an Israeli plot had played out at the highest levels of government and every agency charged with protecting this country had been compromised.

The 5 dancing Israelis had flights booked - came in in June and planned to leave Sept. 12th. One of the two eyewitnesses said they were set up in that parking lot as early as 8 am. The police did not recover the video camera, if there was one, but there is already ample evidence that these 5 knew ahead of time the time and place of the attack. Yet, Jewish friends in high places just keep yelling anti-semite and no investigations or news reports happen. 134 deleted pages not to be declassified until no sooner than 2030? While we are treated like criminals in our own country in the name of national security? What security? It seems more like a National Conspiracy.

Thank you for doing this. I read the first part. It's a lot to get through but some interesting reading.

Anonymous said...

The FBI misspell Israel and Israeli as "ISREAL" and "ISREALI".

Such is the calibre of the FBI officers and their knowledge of the true enemy. Israel is not even in their mind - they can't even spell it!

Anonymous said...

Big kudos to you for obtaining this FBI report, great job! A couple of quick questions for my research:

1. You mention that the full report is 450 pages, yet only about 140 pages are posted on Scribd. I also noticed that some excerpts from the FBI Report on your blog may not be included in the Scribd 140 pages, could this be from the 340 pages that were not posted on Scibd? Anyway to get the full report from you without going through lengthy FOIA request?

2. This FBI Report only covers about the first week of the investigation, have you tried FOIA requests to get subsequent FBI & CIA reports?

Thanks and keep up the good work.

andie531 said...

You mention that the full report is 450 pages, yet only about 140 pages are posted on Scribd.

Section 1 by itself is 141 pages long. All 6 pdfs are on Scribd. (see this link for all 6 http://www.scribd.com/alibaba1a/shelf)

The links to individual pdfs are in the notes in the article.

Some people have posted only one of these pdfs on their website, so that is perhaps the reason for your confusion.

Section 1 = 141 pages
Section 2 = 87
Section 3 = 100
Section 4 = 16
Section 5 = 141
Section 6 = 94

The FBI stated in the letter they sent me regarding these documents (KURZBERG, SIVAN ET AL - SEPTEMBER 2001) that there were about 450 pages - above is closer to 500 - I didn't add them up myself, I just quoted from the letter.

I also noticed that some excerpts from the FBI Report on your blog may not be included in the Scribd 140 pages.

That's because you've been looking at only one of the six documents. The quotes are labeled as to section and page.

This FBI Report only covers about the first week of the investigation

No, that's not true. Section 6 covers the info on Antiwar.com and the dates for that inquiry go into 2004. The final letters to the Israelis from the FBI (Section 6 page 85 onward) are dated 2005).

have you tried FOIA requests to get subsequent FBI & CIA reports?

These are the only documents the FBI sent me regarding the Bureau's detention of the 5 Israelis. The Israelis were detained by the FBI for a few weeks in 2001. They were released and deported that year based on the conclusion by the FBI that they were innocent of wrongdoing (this is also gone over in the documents, Section 6). I am not aware of any "CIA report" or investigation.

In any case, thanks very much for your words of appreciation. I hope this clears up any confusion.

Nothing to it said...

Well, having read most every single word of all that I conclude as do the FBI that there's absolutely no evidence of foreknowledge or involvement.

They found a bong - so at least one of them was a hash smoker. Several were working illegally for the moving company which was run by a boss knowingly employing illegal workers - so that he could rip them off and underpay payroll with cash and avoid taxes.

The recovered photos showed only pics of WTC burning, none of WTC before the first plane hit.

IMO there's absolutely nothing of interest in any of this re 911 and any 'Israeli involvement', nor of any 'foreign intelligence agency' etc.

Absolutely nothing.

This is evidenced by the blog-author's selection of 'choice quotes' -- what do they amount to? Nothing.

10 years of anti-Israeli propaganda based on this.....crazy.

Anyone imagines a bunch of kids and punks like these were intelligence operatives is deluded imo - there is certainly no evidence of it amongst anything here.

Not that that will stop anyone believing it, I suspect. If people really believe it then these dry and wholly mundane files will do nothing to dissuade them.

It's quite amazing how little is needed to sustain 10 years of suspicion. That's the real story here, one suspects.

Anonymous said...

Why invite comments when you refuse to publish them?

Censorship. I thought that was something you railed against.

But only when "zionists" do it, right?

LOL

andie531 said...

Well, having read most every single word of all that I conclude as do the FBI that there's absolutely no evidence of foreknowledge or involvement.

Well, unless you are working for the FBI, you couldn't have read "most every single word of all that" since a great deal of it is partially or completely redacted. Therefore, you cannot logically come to the same conclusion as the FBI, which, by the way, called off the investigation for political reasons. I don't know if you looked at the 4th video, but it is known that the Israelis were released on the grounds that Israel refrains from spying on the US.

They found a bong - so at least one of them was a hash smoker.

NOPE! They found a photo of a homemade bong, which leads me to believe that if you do read, your comprehension is lacking.

Also, I'd go into the connection between criminal behavior and addiction, but that's another subject - the original assassins were hash addicts, btw.

Several were working illegally for the moving company which was run by a boss knowingly employing illegal workers - so that he could rip them off and underpay payroll with cash and avoid taxes.

Well, you got one thing right. Also, I'd go into how flouting the law is a sign of addiction, which also leads to criminal behavior, but it would take too much time.

The recovered photos showed only pics of WTC burning, none of WTC before the first plane hit.

There were at least 70+ photos, not all discussed, so we don't know the content of them all. They were taking photos very shortly after the first plane hit, and this is gone over in the documents. This fact alone is evidence enough of foreknowledge, considering their stories about where they were (supposedly) at that particular time.

IMO there's absolutely nothing of interest in any of this re 911 and any 'Israeli involvement', nor of any 'foreign intelligence agency' etc. Absolutely nothing.

Both the 2nd and 4th videos reference how the group was known to be Mossad. Does their connection with the 19 "Arab hijackers" (seen in these documents and noted in this article) mean nothing to you?

This is evidenced by the blog-author's selection of 'choice quotes'

I suppose you'd prefer I used some boring ones...

10 years of anti-Israeli propaganda based on this.....crazy.

10 years of anti-Muslim, anti-Arab, and deaths of innocents numbering in the millions for the glory of Israel is the REAL INSANITY HERE.

Anyone imagines a bunch of kids and punks like these were intelligence operatives is deluded imo - there is certainly no evidence of it amongst anything here.

See again the 2 videos mentioned - which quote the Jewish Daily Forward on the Mossad involvement - this was brought out very early in the investigation.

Not that that will stop anyone believing it, I suspect. If people really believe it then these dry and wholly mundane files will do nothing to dissuade them.

The real problem is trolls like yourself spend a lot of time trying to squelch free speech - you'd be happy as all get out if no one ever had access to these files, wouldn't you? Anything for Israel, right?

It's quite amazing how little is needed to sustain 10 years of suspicion. That's the real story here, one suspects.

Yes, it's amazing how much our rights in this country have been eroded due to this false flag event and how much additional death and destruction it has brought to the US and the rest of the world. And you have the utter gall to cheerlead for these psychos.

The definition of chutzpah is someone crapping on your doorstep and then knocking and asking for toilet paper.

Consider the crapper to be Israel and the house owner to be the US and middle east, and that constitutes the best analogy of what our relationship with that psychotic little country has been over the years.

Physical Evidence said...

You have done some great work on your blog. Standing O.

In addition to the one letter you posted about 'fee waiver' was there any other accompanying letters you got with the docs. ie. referrencing here's the info you requested etc.

The dectractors never quit. And would it be possible to post it also?

Thank you.

andie531 said...

was there any other accompanying letters you got with the docs. ie. referrencing here's the info you requested etc.

The dectractors never quit. And would it be possible to post it also?


Yes there is, and as soon as I get around to it, I will - it's not that important.

I've already given the "detractors" (and everyone else) information on how to get their own copies of the same files from the FBI, and they should do that, even if it's just for practice.

I am amazed at how much hot air is blown on these issues and how little effort is made to obtain primary documentation. And it's documentation anyone can get by asking for it.

Mic said...

I read with amazing to this topic. What an eye-opener!. As you have reported in your previous post to get to those documents, I have interest in (for my own research). The fact is that I'm not living in America but Holland (Europe). Do you have any idea how to get it from there?.

andie531 said...

"The fact is that I'm not living in America but Holland (Europe). Do you have any idea how to get it from there?"

Use this sample letter:

http://www.fbi.gov/foia/sample-fbi-foia-request-letter

Attach to the letter the Police Report:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/46173840/Dancing-Israelis-Police-Report

The last 2 pages of the police report mention FBI involvement - highlight or circle those paragraphs and mention them in the request letter.

Greg Bacon said...

By now, anyone who doesn't understand that 9/11 was a FALSE FLAG/INSIDE JOB is either an Israeli shill, a die-hard Zionist or they shouldn't be allowed to handle sharp objects.

Excellent work.

andie531 said...

Thanks, Greg. I couldn't have said it better.

Anonymous said...

Your article could close a bestseller on the 911 attack. I hope it will happen soon, because it means that your work will find proper public share, and it means that many people will finally realize all the propaganda behind 911 attack, too.

Thank you. Great work.